|Footy Forum: Eduardo's shame - how can we tackle the divers?
||[Aug. 27th, 2009|12:29 pm]
Eduardo's blatant and shameless 'simulation' against Celtic has raised the debate once more on how divers should be dealt with.
The Croatian tumbled in the box, dusted himself off and scored the penalty which effectively ended the tie. This morning, SFA chief Gordon Smith has urged Uefa to take action, various Celtic players say he should be banned and Independent columnist Neil Warnock has called for retrospective video evidence to be used and divers to be punished with a six-game ban.
But what is the best course of action to rid the game of diving?
Should players be banned retrospectively when clearly seen to have fooled the referee? If so, how harsh should the penalty be? Could video evidence be used during matches to stamp it out? Is it simply a part of the game that has to be tolerated?
Join the debate and let us know how you think divers should be dealt with...
2009-08-27 12:11 pm (UTC)
Minor overhaul needed
Arsenal Fan Here.
Diving is a scourge on football, and I'd Happily give back the goal last night in return for some of the dives commited against my Arsenal in the past. but more to the point..
Id welcome retrospective punishment of diving, they are doing it in Scotland now and also in Australia, so we should see how it goes there, what problems arise and how best to use technology to tackle the problem. As with the use of any technology in sport, things are not always clear cut, so a trial of it is the best way forward.
In addition to 'Diving', there are some other cheats who need to be stopped. People who feign injury to waste time should be kept off the pitch for 3-5 minutes to ensure they have fully recovered, regardless of whether they make a miraculous recovery immediately after leaving the pitch or not.
Lastly goal area assistants shouls be brought in for goal line disputes and goal mouth fouls, such as shirt pulling during corners.
Despite these problems, I love football and I love Arsenal, at least Eduardo has given us all something to talk about, and maybe this time since he plays for the hated Arsenal and therefore his diving is not taboo people might start talking about changes to wipe this ugly, and frequent, aact from our game
2009-08-27 01:46 pm (UTC)
WHEN YOU BECOME UNBIASED AND FAIR!
WHEN YOU MAKE THE SAME NOISE FOR DIVES BY ROONEY, OWEN, OR GERRARD, THEN YOU HAVE STRATED TO TACKLE THE PROBLEM. HOWEVER, I SUSPECT YOU WILL NOT DO THAT, AND CONTINUE TO SENSATIONALIZE EACH TIME A FOREIGN PLAYER, ESPECIALLY ARSENAL'S, HAS A PREDICAMENT!
2009-08-28 08:10 pm (UTC)
Re: WHEN YOU BECOME UNBIASED AND FAIR!
Have to agree here... where is the media when Gerrard dives? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GKXAKQY-0Y
Where is the media when Rooney dives? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXw7Xk4hk-Q
. This is happening week in week out, yet I don't see journalists in serious papers being 'disgusted' and 'sickened' when English players are the culprits. Sort of makes sense though... Off the pitch its the same story... Gallas walking out of a nightclub with a cigarette is a national scandal whilst Terry pissing on nightclub floors and Gerrard beating up some poor DJ that refuses to play Phil Collins shows they have true fighting spirit.
2009-08-27 02:02 pm (UTC)
how about a trial by media?
How about just letting journalists condemn players before UEFA have had a chance to act? They would of course operate under strict guidelines, no English player could be accused certainly not internationals like Owen, Rooney or Gerrard no matter how many times they go down. They would also not be allowed to ask awkward questions like what was the keeper doing charging out with no intention to play the ball. To make things simpler they could always just agree with the TV commentary team even if one was an ex player and manager of the one of the teams in question and the other internaionals from a country that has great sympathy with that team.
2009-08-27 03:42 pm (UTC)
He who offendeth against scotland, yea shall he be punished...
SFA Chairman Smith is such a bumptious little creep. He talks of regulations being in place to deal with such things. There are also regulations which say a British passport holder is eligible to play for scotland - yet remarkably it seems the jocks have what Smith calls a 'gentleman's agreement' to be excused the rules and keep selection to bloodline. Cherry-picking which laws to follow is a common scottish habit, as is litigiousness. Just look at Ferguson's record (currently, and shamelessly, on his high horse about 'cheats' ruining the game). How I despise that shi..y little country.
2009-08-27 07:28 pm (UTC)
Look through the list of Arsenal players since Wenger came.
Lundberg,Henry, Pires, Vieira, Van Persie, and many more.
They have embarrassed themselves and their Club through their diving antics.
I know Wenger is the darling of the London Press, but his teams behaviour over the past ten years has disgraced the game.
You are trying to be sarcastic right?